In this episode, Brian and Dale unpack the axiom of Next Level Risk. Whether you’re starting a business, scaling a team, or investing in systems, growth always requires stepping out of your comfort zone—and into uncertainty.

The brothers reflect on their own journey building ForeverLawn, sharing real stories of risks that paid off (and some that didn’t). From hiring their first office manager on a tight budget to outsourcing accounting and investing in big marketing moves, they explore what it means to continually bet on yourself and others.

If you’ve ever found yourself stuck on first base, afraid to move—this one’s for you. Because you can’t steal second with your foot on first.